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At Loup Ventures, research is in our blood. The spirit of our team has always lived on the curiosity to discover new insights that yield investment opportunities. For years we did this on Wall Street, focused on public tech companies. Now we invest in private frontier tech companies, but public companies like Tesla, Nvidia, and others are also meaningful innovators in frontier tech. These public companies are shaping the emergence of AI, robotics, autonomous vehicles, and AR/VR just as much as early stage startups. As a result, we’ve always kept a watchful eye on public market participants to inform our private investment strategy. Gene Munster is a managing partner and co-founder at Loup Ventures. Prior to Loup Ventures, Gene was a managing director and senior research analyst at Piper Jaffray where he covered technology companies including Apple, Amazon, Google and Facebook. During his 21-year tenure, Gene received many acknowledgements including: Top Stock Picker from Forbes, Best on the Street from The Wall Street Journal, and was widely recognized for his work on Apple. Gene holds a bachelor’s degree in finance and entrepreneurship from University of St. Thomas.

Here’s What to Expect Ahead of Tesla (TSLA) Earnings

By Gene Munster and Will Thompson

Tesla (TSLA) reports it’s Dec-18 quarter on Wednesday, January 30th. As a recap, the company announced on January 2nd that it had produced 86,555 vehicles including 61,394 Model 3s in the Dec-18 quarter, essentially in line with the Street. Here is what we’re expecting:

Dec-18 Earnings

Commentary from Elon Musk’s recent email to employees suggests that Dec-18 earnings will be below the Street, which is at $2.26 (down from $2.90 in Sep-18). Our interpretation of Musk’s comment, “In Q4, preliminary, unaudited results indicate that we again made a GAAP profit, but less than Q3,” is that Q4 EPS will fall somewhere below $2.00 and above $1.00. Our best estimate is $1.70 compared to the Street at $2.26.

Mar-19 Guidance

We’re bracing for March guidance to be below current Street pro forma EPS expectations of $1.40. We believe the potential exists for guidance calling for a GAAP loss. This is based on Musk’s comment in the same email, “This quarter [Q1’19], as with Q3, shipment of higher priced Model 3 variants (this time to Europe and Asia) will hopefully allow us, with great difficulty, effort and some luck, to target a tiny profit.” This may be an attempt by Musk to temper Street expectations; his comment leaves the door open for the company to guide to a loss in the March quarter.

One potential rationale for the company guiding to a loss in March is the timing of vehicles in transit to Europe and Asia. Tesla, over the past month, has opened the Model 3 configurator to several European markets and China, with initial deliveries set for February. Our checks indicate that new orders in these markets (as of 1/23/19) have estimated delivery times in March. The 5 to 7 week lag between production and delivery (recognizing revenue), causes us to brace for an earnings loss in Mar-19.

A March loss would result in a small drag on Tesla’s cash position, but we still believe the company has the cash on hand to service both its March 1st and November upcoming debt obligations.

Demand Commentary

More import than Mar-19 EPS will be commentary around demand in the US following the step down in the EV tax credit from $7,500 to $3,750, along with commentary related to initial orders in Europe and China. If overall commentary related to Tesla demand is positive, investors’ concern over a near term loss will be softened.

Model 3 Gross Margin Outlook

We expect the company to reiterate its comments from the Sep-18 investor letter to “continue to target a 25% gross margin ex-ZEV credits on Model 3,” but caution it could take several years to achieve the mark. This compares to Sep-18 GAAP Model 3 gross margin of more than 20%. We anticipate overall automotive gross margin to be 15% in Dec-18 compared to 20% in Sep-18.

As the average selling price of Model 3 drifts lower over the next 2 years, we believe the company will achieve a 25% Model 3 gross margin. This is based on previous Tesla commentary that Model S and X Performance mix declined roughly 4-fold since 2015, but Model S and X gross margin ex-ZEV credits improved by roughly 6% over that period. Tesla’s recent workforce reduction also supports margin expansion. Musk’s comments in his January email suggested that the company can increase Model 3 production, despite the workforce reduction, through manufacturing efficiencies.


There is reason for optimism around the China story despite tariffs negatively affecting results by $50M in the Sep-18 quarter. First, Model 3 deliveries in China are starting in March. More importantly, construction of the China Gigafactory is progressing faster than Gigafactory 1 in Nevada; we expect production in China to start in mid-2020. The China Gigafactory will help Tesla more cost-effectively address the world’s largest EV market, advance Tesla’s political efforts in China, build its brand with Chinese consumers, and accelerate the company’s mission.


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